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July 14th, 2008

My kid hates Linux

Posted by Christopher Dawson @ 6:00 am

Categories: Education Technology

Tags: Computer, Linux, UNIX, 64-Bit, Operating Systems, Productivity, Open Source, Software, Processors, Semiconductors

This one irritated quite a few folks, so I figured it was worth a repost while I’m on vacation. Enjoy!

My oldest son is a fairly typical 15 year-old end user. He’s on the computer all the time, has a decent idea how to get things done, and is largely not interested in the inner workings of hardware or operating system. He, like most other users, just wants the computer to work.

This isn’t actually a bad expectation. We don’t usually expect our computers not to work, do we? Unfortunately for him, he recently inherited my tinkering machine. It’s a beast in every sense of the word: 17″ screen, big hard drive, Core 2 Duo, 2GB of RAM, and all the usual multimedia goodies. It’s also running 64-bit Ubuntu with XP in a virtual machine.

As I said, this was my tinkering computer, the laptop I used to install various operating systems, bits of software, test configurations, etc., such that by the time I received my Mac and passed it on to my son, I really should have done a clean system install. I also should have dumped the 64-bit operating system since, while it screamed for the sorts of computation I was doing (go 64-bit Maple!), Shockwave and Flash still require too many hacks and don’t work universally.

For my purposes, the Flash support I had running the 32-bit Swiftweasel browser was more than adequate. For a kid who wanders the Web looking for fun Flash games, the 64-bit user experience left something to be desired.

So where do you think he spends most of his time? That’s right, in the VirtualBox Windows XP virtual machine. The other day he asked if I could just (GASP!) install XP on the laptop and get rid of Linux because “Linux sucks.” I thought about grounding him and taking away Internet privileges until he had completed some significant open source coding project, but realized that his initial experiences with his new (to him) computer had defined his view of Linux in general.

He didn’t remember the two aging Linux computers he had used for Internet access and typing term papers that used to live in our basement. They were 32-bit Mandriva and Edubuntu installs that met his needs perfectly at the time. All he knows is that his current computer running Linux doesn’t meet his needs.

So what’s the moral of the story here? Don’t even think about rolling out Linux for your users until you’re sure it will meet their needs. Test it with groups of users, avoid 64-bit distros (for now) with your mainstream users, and provide plenty of training. As many of us know (even the Windows fanboys know it), Linux can meet the needs of those mainstream users quite handily and on the cheap. However, most of us also know (even if the Linux fanboys won’t admit it), how easy it is to kill time tweaking and fiddling with a Linux box, getting it running juuuuust right. This is not something that those average users have any desire to do. For them, it needs to be placed on their desks and it needs to work.

As we know, first impressions are lasting impressions. Don’t let your users’ first impressions be that Linux doesn’t work. Get the deployment right before it appears on their desktops and many won’t even notice the difference (unless they were using Vista; then they might thank you). I’ve convinced my kid to give it another shot when I do a clean install of 32-bit Ubuntu 8.04 as soon as it comes out. I’ll report back on his impressions.

Christopher Dawson

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maybe it's me..  Monkey_MCSE | 04/14/08
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you don't really want to bring that up shade  Monkey_MCSE | 04/14/08
RE: I'm sure the parents of the Columbine kids ...  none none | 04/14/08
Shade this is one of those times  Linux User 147560 | 04/14/08
The only thing that has been demonstrated ....  ShadeTree | 04/15/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/15/08
Re: The only thing that has been demonstrated ....  none none | 04/15/08
Nope!!!  JLHenry | 04/14/08
If Chris installs Vista on it, it WON'T break!  mwagner@... | 04/14/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/14/08
Oh, dude! Kudos for the parenting in the previous thread...  ajole | 04/14/08
There are . . .  JLHenry | 04/14/08
I hace to agree with ya..  Monkey_MCSE | 04/14/08
Question for the Windows marks  bobd08 | 04/14/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  mwagner@... | 04/14/08
sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree  blablablalb | 04/14/08
He doesn't hate Linux, he hates not being able to Youtube or game.  ajole | 04/14/08
I'm with you on games  markdean | 04/15/08
Flash works fine in 64-bit Gutsy  ZDNET_guest666 | 04/14/08
Out of the mouths of babes  tonymcs@... | 04/14/08
But apparently...  zkiwi | 04/14/08
Please.....  rjacksix | 04/14/08
re: My kid hates Linux  tpackert@... | 04/14/08
"Linux Rocks" - My 13 Year Old (nt)  BanjoPaterson | 04/14/08
7 year old has no problems  zeke123 | 04/14/08
LINUX MARKET SHARE = 0.61 PERCENT  NicoToscani | 04/14/08
Not only that but also...  zkiwi | 04/14/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/15/08
Nice try but no sale!  ShadeTree | 04/15/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/15/08
It is not for the reasons I stated.  ShadeTree | 04/16/08
....  Linux User 147560 | 04/16/08
Anyone who knows stats sampling  alaniane@... | 04/17/08
.61% of the people in that sampling are intelligent  starcannon99022@... | 04/15/08
What is a typical 15 year old user  stomfi@... | 04/14/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  robot12 | 04/14/08
So?  zkiwi | 04/14/08
Married with Children  rtirman37@... | 04/15/08
The problem is  GuidingLight | 04/15/08
And yet...  zkiwi | 04/15/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  Loverock Davidson | 04/15/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/15/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  mgrubb@... | 04/15/08
Your kid hates Linux, he wants more games  nicodoggie | 04/15/08
RE: Linux and school/ workplace  chaz15 | 04/15/08
LOL...that's funny.  socialism=nowhere | 04/15/08
Where to begin...  starcannon99022@... | 04/15/08
Well Said!! (nt)  mdsmedia | 04/18/08
Read it again..  zkiwi | 04/15/08
Geez, my first computer was a C=64 in grade 5!  roystonlodge | 04/15/08
Moved wife from W2K to CentOS: No Problem  DaveAtFraud | 04/15/08
Let the boy try Xandros (formerly Corel Linux)  maxtheitpro | 04/15/08
Re: Let the boy try Xandros (formerly Corel Linux)  DaveAtFraud | 04/16/08
Nice article - I had the same experience with my 10 Year Old  socialism=nowhere | 04/15/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  markdean | 04/15/08
Here's an example of a 10 yr. old...  btljooz | 04/15/08
Yeah thats my youngest daughter  starcannon99022@... | 04/15/08
Thats why I made Ultumix  usarcomputertec | 04/15/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  genebigham@... | 04/15/08
Juvenile wisdom prevails  Ole Man | 04/15/08
ok there jack thompson, way to confuse the topic at hand.  JamesDoyle | 04/15/08
Thank you for your confidence  Ole Man | 04/18/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  marcfinnwilson@... | 04/15/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  marcfinnwilson@... | 04/15/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  marcfinnwilson@... | 04/15/08
The Limiting Behavior of Adults:  bildrdude | 04/15/08
Thanks for the sane post  none none | 04/15/08
My niece and nephews don't know what Linux is  storm14k | 04/15/08
My kid hates Vista  webm0nster | 04/15/08
I dont understand  Crestview | 04/15/08
Just curious  zclayton2 | 04/15/08
Not so hard  Crestview | 04/15/08
True  zclayton2 | 04/16/08
Re: I dont understand  none none | 04/15/08
I figured SOMEBODY  Crestview | 04/15/08
I think I do...  webm0nster | 04/16/08
RE: My kid... If his perceived need is to run XP..  Hans Schmidt | 04/15/08
Not so hard  Crestview | 04/15/08
My Kids Don't get a Choice  starcannon99022@... | 04/15/08
Tinker toys  Crestview | 04/15/08
My gaming box  starcannon99022@... | 04/15/08
Windows for games  bildrdude | 04/15/08
Not to mention  Crestview | 04/15/08
And if you'd given him Windows Me?  JJQ1000 | 04/15/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  mrdt | 04/15/08
Misrepresenting linux  james.faction | 04/15/08
nuff said n/t  btljooz | 04/16/08
Opinion of my 8 year old daughter - "Edubuntu is great"  tiddlypom | 04/16/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  as901 | 04/16/08
I'm sad to say that I hate Linux too  graywave | 04/16/08
....  Linux User 147560 | 04/16/08
Hah, dream on  CreepinJesus | 04/16/08
So, I guess the observation that...  zkiwi | 04/16/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/16/08
The reason so many of them can't install stuff  storm14k | 04/17/08
Good call!  devlin_X | 04/20/08
What kind of drug are you on?  devlin_X | 04/17/08
I sincerely hope!  Ole Man | 04/18/08
What planet are you living on??  mdsmedia | 04/18/08
Thank you!!  mdsmedia | 04/18/08
Well...  zkiwi | 04/16/08
Mini Mode  endersjane@... | 04/16/08
You're missing the point '...'  graywave | 04/16/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 04/17/08
I think you missed Linux all together...  storm14k | 04/17/08
missed Linux all together...?  Ole Man | 04/18/08
What ever happened to curiosity?  twessels@... | 04/16/08
RE: Linux suited for mainstream users ?  bernard.demarcin@... | 04/16/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  Xileh Nori | 04/16/08
Linux illiterates, PLEASE use your Search Engine?  btljooz | 04/16/08
Before they learn to use Linux,,,,,  Ole Man | 04/18/08
TRUE!!! sooooo TRUE!!! LOL! n/t  btljooz | 04/21/08
Buy a Mac, but...  mikifinaz1@... | 04/16/08
WHY kid hates Linux  endersjane@... | 04/16/08
Just install Cedega...pop in Windows game CD...install is identica...play!  xunil skcor | 04/18/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  endersjane@... | 04/16/08
And the moral of this story?  GOTBO | 04/17/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  ethyrdude | 04/18/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  Chiatzu | 04/18/08
It's his call - we live in a semi-free country!  pikeman666 | 04/18/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  Violetw | 04/18/08
My 16 year old son LOVES Linux!!!  xunil skcor | 04/18/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  croftsale | 04/18/08
It's about usability  proton_z | 04/18/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  snoopy_tn | 04/19/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  sfriedrich | 04/20/08
linux vs windows me  davidaforshaw@... | 04/20/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  asergyt | 04/21/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  tehhaxor666@... | 04/22/08
Why not just install XP?  jonsushi | 04/22/08
Maybe he would like it if his kids...  bjbrock | 07/14/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  gulbranson14@... | 04/22/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  gulbranson14@... | 04/22/08
Linux is good if you know what your doing.  gulbranson14@... | 04/22/08
Never is a long time.  vermonter | 05/12/08
"Security thru obscurity"  Ole Man | 05/15/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  wazzup987 | 04/25/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  wazzup987 | 04/25/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  Sarri323 | 05/28/08
Then don't use it and don't complain about it.  b.bob | 07/14/08
My kids love Vista  qmlscycrajg | 07/14/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  bobpeg | 07/14/08
Yikes!  djchandler | 07/14/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  xshakes | 10/22/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  warpuck@... | 10/22/08
I'm on 64 bit Ubuntu and Flash works fine.  T1Oracle | 10/22/08
RE: My kid hates Linux  warpuck@... | 10/23/08

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