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August 7th, 2008

Apple prices are just peachy

Posted by Christopher Dawson @ 9:19 pm

Categories: Education Technology

Tags: apple macintosh, pc, apple inc., laptop computer, apple mac os x, desktops, notebooks, operating systems, software, apple mac os

I’m always looking for a bargain. I’m in charge of buying technology for a small, rural school district; I don’t spend much time deciding between SLI video options for my students.

That being said, I still just bought a whole slew of Macs for the K-8 schools I support. These computers weren’t the cheapest I could have found. I’m saving the seriously cheap PCs and netbooks for some basic word processing and web applications at the high school. The Macs, on the other hand, will be used hard, every day, in schools where my ability to provide support is far more limited (we have one guy running around between all of the elementary schools and one teacher stipended to take care of the middle school computers).

Why did I pay more? Because OS X is a great choice, OS X Leopard Server is a piece of cake for newbs to administer, I had a nice library of software that ran well on OS X, and, most importantly, a new 17″ iMac (only available to us educators) fits quite nicely into some very space-constrained environments. Did I mention that these iMacs have built-in wireless and only run a moderate premium over comparable PCs once you add in a 17″ LCD? The wireless is important for me since the infrastructure in most of our older schools is dismal; a few well-placed routers and my desktops and laptops are up and running.

On the laptop front, the load of MacBooks we snagged are rugged enough that I’m confident they’ll survive third-graders. They’re also quite a bit lighter than your average $900 laptop (academic discounts are my friend), making them easy for said third-graders to handle.

So why do I bring this up? Because one of my colleagues over at CNet wrote this little ditty: “Apple needs to bring Mac prices down.” Do I wish that Apple would release a very low-cost ultraportable netbook meets MacBook? Of course I do. I’d stand in ridiculous lines at Mac Stores to have one end up in my cargo pants’ pocket.

However, as Apple keeps cranking out high-quality, durable, user-friendly, innovative products, I have to remember the words my old economics teacher used to ask: “How much should a company charge for a product?” We would all answer in unison, “As much as the market will bear.”

Well, the market seems to be bearing some fairly hefty prices as Apple hits the #3 spot in the States for new PC sales. From an educational perspective, our market can’t bear as much as a lot of consumers, but sometimes, what we really can’t bear is Windows Vista running on a cheap PC.

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Hmm ... odd
First of all, $1,075 is over 50% of $1.999. Just a quibble
with basic arithmetic.

Secondly, I did the same comparison on the same site and
ended up with $1387. I just added things like ... (Read the rest)
Posted by: mbrierley Posted on: 08/13/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
You can't compare Apples and Academic Apples.  TripleII | 08/07/08
1/3 the price?  Fred Fredrickson | 08/08/08
Notebooks, it's easy.  TripleII | 08/08/08
Not quite  RealNonZealot | 08/08/08
I must be lucky.  TripleII | 08/08/08
Hmm ... odd  mbrierley | 08/13/08
Sure it is...  vmaatta | 08/08/08
Eh?  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
Uhh... Look again...  Stuka | 08/08/08
I did.  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
I did too  gtdavies33@... | 08/08/08
You actually get screwed...  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
I used to think the same.  TripleII | 08/08/08
OS needs tell the tale.  deowll | 08/08/08
I use Mandriva.  TripleII | 08/08/08
FYI, edu discount  lostarchitect | 08/08/08
From the story...  TripleII | 08/08/08
School discounts can be another world.  deowll | 08/08/08
Really  pjskeleton | 08/07/08
It's not rocket science to build your own PC  LBiege | 08/08/08
Who has the time to do that?  rpaula978 | 08/08/08
Can you save money making your own PC?  deowll | 08/08/08
Been there done that.....  James Quinn | 08/08/08
People just don't agree.  deowll | 08/08/08
Yea but custom does not = apple  fenixstar | 08/08/08
... except that  LBiege | 08/08/08
One niggle...  zkiwi | 08/08/08
I don't agree.  deowll | 08/08/08
Build home PCs...  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
My dept. already built quite a few for medical firms  LBiege | 08/08/08
The machines I saw were nothing at all special.  deowll | 08/08/08
That's nice...  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
Yes it is.....  James Quinn | 08/08/08
So...  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
Nope....  James Quinn | 08/08/08
No...  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
And that has been a requirement here since?  James Quinn | 08/08/08
Only with a chaperone...  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
Stop with this already.  ye | 08/08/08
Um yes in my case all I need to do is say so....  James Quinn | 08/08/08
But your comments aren't limited to your situation.  ye | 08/08/08
I support you Jim  Sphilpot | 08/08/08
I don't believe your FUD therefore I must work for MS?  ye | 08/08/08
And I, in no way, believe any of your FUD.  Bruizer | 08/10/08
Not specific enough cause to me my experience  James Quinn | 08/08/08
It's not up to me to define what you should provide.  ye | 08/08/08
When it comes to me my opinion is fact....:)  James Quinn | 08/08/08
@James Quinn: It's not our responsibility to disprove...  ye | 08/08/08
Do I?  James Quinn | 08/08/08
@James Quinn: Yes, you do.  ye | 08/08/08
You did read my original post right?  James Quinn | 08/08/08
@James Quinn: Yes, I read it.  ye | 08/08/08
Ah but there was not general claims in that post.  James Quinn | 08/08/08
UNLESS the cost of joining a group is countered by  James Quinn | 08/08/08
Oh GAWD!  Confused by religion | 08/08/08
Yes?  James Quinn | 08/09/08
Really?  zkiwi | 08/08/08
Said a Window's fanboy/cheerleader...  Bruizer | 08/10/08
Sure they are  btidwell | 08/08/08
absolutely  patibulo | 08/08/08
Take a couple night classes at your local college...  James Quinn | 08/08/08
Your recommendation to save money is to spend money?  ye | 08/08/08
Depends on if you consider "education" an  James Quinn | 08/08/08
It's not when the reason for doing so is to get a discount...  ye | 08/08/08
Did not say it should be the "only" reason....  James Quinn | 08/08/08
Oh please Jim. Don't take us for fools.  ye | 08/08/08
My first reply said the following.....  James Quinn | 08/08/08
@James Quinn: Again: Don't take us for fools.  ye | 08/08/08
I think my "intent" was clearly stated in my reply..  James Quinn | 08/08/08
@James Quinn: Where did I say anything about full time?  ye | 08/08/08
I think you mis-understand....  James Quinn | 08/08/08
@James Quinn: You're giving poor advice.  ye | 08/08/08
UNLESS there is a benefit for joining said group  James Quinn | 08/08/08
@James Quinn: Again: Don't take us for fools.  ye | 08/08/08
Just saying no need to be an educator which is a  James Quinn | 08/08/08
@ye  zkiwi | 08/08/08
Both sides of the argument have merit.  ye | 08/08/08
So you've seen the light!  Sphilpot | 08/08/08
Finally? This has been my position for quite some time.  ye | 08/08/08
So, you're point has been...  Sphilpot | 08/08/08
My point is and has been to clear up the FUD.  ye | 08/08/08
What FUD are you trying to clear up?  James Quinn | 08/08/08
The FUD that the Mac is more productive.  ye | 08/08/08
As I stated before nothing and no one is perfect  James Quinn | 08/08/08
@James Quinn: I didn't say anything about perfection.  ye | 08/08/08
My point was that even quality parts fail for any  James Quinn | 08/08/08
@James Quinn: Except you convinently forget that when...  ye | 08/08/08
Are you claiming that the $399.00 Dell that includes  James Quinn | 08/08/08
In my uses, I find they are substantially.  Bruizer | 08/10/08
However, you just fling FUD faster and harder, so...  zkiwi | 08/08/08
@ ye Actually  Sphilpot | 08/08/08
And because the average PC sold...  Anton Philidor | 08/08/08
A fan boy should know his company. You don't.  deowll | 08/08/08
Take a bite out of corruption  David Blomstrom | 08/08/08
No-one's going to vote for you...  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
Huh?  David Blomstrom | 08/08/08
But you never get elected...  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
LOL  David Blomstrom | 08/08/08
Indeed...  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
Oh, really?  David Blomstrom | 08/08/08
Hmmm -  Confused by religion | 08/08/08
Apple prices are very peachy...  gregory.dworak@... | 08/08/08
I totally agree with...  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
That Apple doesn't make a product for this application is EXACTLY the issue  ajole | 08/11/08
Apple once had the educational market...  Anton Philidor | 08/08/08
Not sure about that....  James Quinn | 08/08/08
The IBM clones...  Anton Philidor | 08/08/08
I don't think the clones were the nail in the coffin  James Quinn | 08/08/08
I don't buy this argument.  ajole | 08/11/08
I pretty much agree with this post.  deowll | 08/08/08
Apparently not!  ShadeTree | 08/08/08
Where are Apple appologists when you need them?  LBiege | 08/08/08
Better quality does not mean flawless.....  James Quinn | 08/08/08
This is fun...check it out.  James Quinn | 08/08/08
Indeed...  Sleeper Service | 08/08/08
I place very little weight on...  jasonp@... | 08/08/08
Irrelevent. According to the ZDnet talkbalk security rules...  ye | 08/08/08
And I agree....with both of you.  James Quinn | 08/08/08
Typically the discussions aren't about getting concerned but rather...  ye | 08/08/08
As a rule of thumb I don't know about you but  James Quinn | 08/08/08
RE: Apple prices are just peachy  jurgen.manycolored@... | 08/08/08
There's no free lunch.  David Blomstrom | 08/08/08
I generally agreed until the end.  TripleII | 08/08/08
Actually  j.m.galvin | 08/08/08
Some examples might help.  TripleII | 08/08/08
What does that have to do with computers?  j.m.galvin | 08/08/08
I didn't start the tangent.  TripleII | 08/08/08
Why stop there?  David Blomstrom | 08/08/08
I didn't say MS is clean.  TripleII | 08/08/08
You said I didn't.  deowll | 08/08/08
(Self-deleted)  David Blomstrom | 08/08/08
System Shoot outs  SquishyParts | 08/08/08
Thank you...  Sleeper Service | 08/09/08
Exactly, Distortion field affects sound buying.  ed777 | 08/08/08
And in the other corner...  zkiwi | 08/08/08
The only thing I got from this Christopher, is that you are an amateur...  Scrat | 08/10/08
Well...  zkiwi | 08/10/08
I thought he meant Apple should use more Nvidia?  ajole | 08/11/08
I think...  zkiwi | 08/11/08
Third graders do not need what most schools spend on IT  John238 | 08/10/08
Good post  Anton Philidor | 08/11/08
Agreed, but...  ajole | 08/11/08
No freakin' way.  ajole | 08/11/08

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