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November 18th, 2008

Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?

Posted by Christopher Dawson @ 2:21 am

Categories: Education Technology

Tags: Google Inc., Google Apps, Archiving, Teacher, Cloud Computing, E-mail, Online Communications, Christopher Dawson

I’m giving serious thought to switching our school to Google Apps from our current ISP’s email system this coming summer. Only teachers and staff have access to district email right now; the switch would provide students, teachers, and staff with school email accounts and access to the suite of Google Applications, enabling easier integration of home and school work, as well as secure, archived communications (Google Apps can now provide FRCP-compliant archiving at $8.50/year/user for educational institutions).

Our users are generally dissatisfied with the current webmail interface (it really is kludgy) and we’re adding outside collaboration tools all the time. Students as well are increasingly looking for ways to easily work at home, the public library, during class, and before/after school. While flash drives are fine, they do pose security risks. VPN infrastructures take time and money while roaming profiles take a toll on performance (at least in terms of startup and shutdown). Of course, this begs the question, why not just host everything in the cloud?

Given the maturity of Google Apps, I can’t see a good reason not to. I know that Google Apps won’t meet the needs of our secretaries. We have OpenOffice and Office 2007/2008 for the few secretaries who are real power users and the occasional staff member who needs to deal with very large documents and fine-grained formatting. However, from my perspective, there is nothing that it can’t handle quite well for students and teachers.

Turning in a paper? Just make sure your teacher is a collaborator on the document and they can review and comment online. Need to make a presentation? The entire class can log in and ask questions online as you go using Google Presentations. You can’t teach Excel macros, but we should simply be teaching kids to use spreadsheets rather than a particular tool. We can (and should) teach programming elsewhere.

Better yet, all accounts would include access to Blogger; shared calendars; a website builder; voice, text, and video chat; and all of the anti-spam and antivirus technology built into Gmail.

And, of course, all of this (except the archiving service) is free (no ads, either) for educational institutions.

For me, this seems like a no-brainer for testing in the spring and full rollout in the fall. Am I missing something?

Christopher Dawson

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RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?
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Posted by: David Grober Posted on: 04/13/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Good idea  hgh9mrp@... | 11/18/08
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  mayahmae | 11/18/08
Good luck, seems like a great plan.  T1Oracle | 11/18/08
you are missing something  patibulo | 11/18/08
Teaching concepts vs Teaching Apps.  SpikeyMike | 11/18/08
My experience shows different  patibulo | 11/18/08
Has Been Tested, Students Found Advantages  dunraven | 11/18/08
Curious  thelivo | 11/18/08
Kids that can't learn concepts aren't going to learn anyway.  T1Oracle | 11/19/08
Case Study-ish  Turntwo | 11/19/08
You could take it a step further using thin clients...  914four | 11/19/08
Serious?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/18/08
Productivity  farmers@... | 11/19/08
I've been there...  thefoff | 11/19/08
RefWorks  bonchi74@... | 11/19/08
Missing something?  bonchi74@... | 11/19/08
Importing existing documents  a_gautier | 11/19/08
You forgot something as well...  raul62 | 11/20/08
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  chrome_slinky@... | 11/18/08
Good Comment  thelivo | 11/18/08
Comcast has bandwidth limitation because some customers abuse the system  T1Oracle | 11/19/08
Lets not re-open this can of worms...  JT82 | 11/19/08
I have to chuckle  frgough | 11/18/08
Nope  markbn | 11/18/08
Just a few ideas...  ajole | 11/18/08
And how long does it take to get an IT person from downtown?  richard_cook@... | 11/19/08
That was a quick demonization  AndyCee | 11/18/08
Flash drives spread trojans and such...  914four | 11/19/08
Well put  jrprich@... | 11/19/08
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  steeldestroyer | 11/18/08
G.D. maintains a history of changes  AndyCee | 11/18/08
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  t.glatch | 11/18/08
Sources, Bibliography, Citations  steeldestroyer | 11/18/08
Half-measures  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/18/08
A better application for that...  914four | 11/19/08
absolutely  bonchi74@... | 11/19/08
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  medezark@... | 11/18/08
In primary/secondary school  AndyCee | 11/18/08
I'm quite upset with one thing  s_souche | 11/18/08
RE: evaluating sources  danholt7 | 11/19/08
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  Maarek | 11/18/08
I strongly disagree based on student safety.  JonathonDoe | 11/18/08
Are you serious?  markbn | 11/18/08
Yes, I am. Student safety must come first.  JonathonDoe | 11/18/08
Not sure what security issues a kid would put in a portfolio.  ajole | 11/18/08
I believe you're being sincere  AndyCee | 11/18/08
Thanks, but I don't mean to imply...  JonathonDoe | 11/19/08
If you want more information...  914four | 11/19/08
Well put  jrprich@... | 11/20/08
The ability to save as Word documents  CobraA1 | 11/18/08
Oh Dear  thelivo | 11/18/08
Didn't you just lose all credibility lmao...  storm14k | 11/18/08
Looks like they added it recently  CobraA1 | 11/19/08
Obviously you've never used Google Docs...  PantherDave | 11/19/08
Pilot Feedback  dunraven | 11/18/08

 dunraven | 11/18/08
-Not Beta & Administrator's Perspective-  tHe.iR1sH | 11/18/08
Google Apps not BETA? Since when? nt  transposeIT | 11/18/08
The siren's call  jorjitop | 11/18/08
Piecemeal Mess  Patanjali | 11/18/08
And just think of the headaches when...  PB_z | 11/18/08
Thin clients...  914four | 11/19/08
Hey Teacher, I need little help here...  hgh9mrp@... | 11/19/08
What other app would you recommend?  ajole | 11/19/08
more on math  hgh9mrp@... | 11/19/08
OpenOffice.org Math  AndyCee | 11/19/08
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  andinotortosa@... | 11/19/08
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  stevehall52 | 11/19/08
Students- OK, Teachers- No  balaknair | 11/19/08
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  pozzobon | 11/19/08
ooh Good one  thelivo | 11/19/08
Is that good for students?  bretthodel@... | 11/19/08
I think you missed the point.  914four | 11/19/08
Have you considered....  Spiritusindomit@... | 11/19/08
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  lynn.mcnally@... | 11/19/08
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  prof.bisson@... | 11/19/08
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  tigger71677@... | 11/19/08
Downtime  sir4taye@... | 11/19/08
I just can't see it working...  NKX | 11/20/08
Tried it - Love it  Frug | 11/20/08
Google Apps are very very close to perfect...  Narg | 11/20/08
Terms & Conditions?  Peter Johnstone | 11/23/08
Is there anything Students can't do?  Peter Johnstone | 11/23/08
Message has been deleted.  David GroberZDNet Moderator | 04/13/09
RE: Is there anything teachers or students need that Google Apps can't do?  David GroberZDNet Moderator | 04/13/09

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