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January 26th, 2009

Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!

Posted by Christopher Dawson @ 7:10 pm

Categories: Education Technology

Tags: Multimedia, Microsoft Windows 7, Operating System, Desktop Linux, Linux, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Desktops, UNIX, Open Source

To listen to my fellow bloggers, Robin Harris and Michael Krigsman, you would think that it’s all over for desktop Linux, with the OS once again being relegated to the server room while Windows 7 is the be all to end all of desktop operating systems. To that I say, baloney!

I don’t just say this as a fanboy. I use Linux, Mac, XP, and Vista, and I’m downloading Windows 7 beta as we speak. Even in my post yesterday, I noted that there was a compelling body of software that already exists in Windows and emerging around the Windows-based Classmate. That being said, a huge body of software exists for desktop Linux, most of which is free (we like free things in education) and OS X is hardly hurting for software (educational and otherwise).

Mostly, though, I say it because utility computing is going to become a hell of a lot more important than the latest features from Microsoft, Canonical, or Apple. Can it get us online, get us into the cloud, and play our multimedia files?

If somebody wrote a post telling me that the desktop OS was dead at the hands of Google, I’d say not yet, but maybe sooner than we think. But to say that Windows 7, just because it can run faster than Vista on a netbook, has effectively killed desktop Linux just doesn’t make sense.

The students and teachers I support can do virtually anything they need to do on any desktop OS I hand them. I have all of our mission-critical software running under Wine and all have Windows and OS X clients. For a long time, there will be applications (a multimedia lab, for example) where it makes sense to pick an OS that runs the most software in the most stable manner possible. However, there will be many more places where cheap netbooks, thin clients, or even ultra-cheap desktops will make as much, if not more sense.

Whether those devices run Linux or some flavor of Windows won’t really matter, as long as the OS of choice is stable, secure, and fast. Maybe Windows 7 will fill the bill, but I think it’s pretty safe to say that a lot of *nix software will do the same.

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RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!
Linux IS dead. Both from a server and desktop perspective. Solaris is the nail in the coffin on the server side, and Windows on the desktop side. I'm a Unix veteran. I love Unix. Dennis Ritchie and Ke... (Read the rest)
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Too late to back out now.  kozmcrae | 01/27/09
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Horse puckey =  nizuse | 01/27/09
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I think you'll find it does  GOTBO | 02/24/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  Rapscallion | 01/26/09
You are wrong  shellcodes_coder | 01/27/09
So are you  vmaatta | 01/27/09
It IS a service pack...  TtfnJohn | 01/27/09
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service pack  rcbarr83@... | 01/27/09
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request of apple, suse, Redhat  rcbarr83@... | 01/28/09
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Linux;s Financial Model  rjacksix | 01/28/09
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You're kidding right?  rjacksix | 01/28/09
I don't believe I mentioned Ubuntu.  ShadeTree | 01/29/09
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updates  ticthak@... | 01/27/09
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updates  ticthak@... | 01/28/09
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People buy what they're familiar with and that's Windows.  kozmcrae | 01/27/09
No, people buy what works...  Sleeper Service | 01/28/09
" No, people buy what works..."  kozmcrae | 01/28/09
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Windows support.  kozmcrae | 01/27/09
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Actually.  kozmcrae | 01/27/09
And of course...  Sleeper Service | 01/27/09
You stink!  kozmcrae | 01/27/09
I don't call that a 'retort'...  Sleeper Service | 01/28/09
Watch out for reality Sleeper...  kozmcrae | 01/28/09
It sure is for desktop Linux.  Sleeper Service | 01/29/09
Windows 7: The Linux Killer!  kozmcrae | 01/27/09
It is not Microsoft declaring them dead.  ShadeTree | 01/27/09
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BRAVO  rjacksix | 01/28/09
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RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  obvio.capitao@... | 01/27/09
Wrong on all counts.  ShadeTree | 01/27/09
RE: Wrong on all counts., execpt one  n0neXn0ne | 01/27/09
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Pirating Windows is fine  deaf_e_kate | 01/27/09
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@Shadetree: i don't think that's a positive thing  TedKraan | 01/29/09
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MS and Pirating  rjacksix | 01/28/09
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Say what?  Internets | 01/27/09
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another problem  TedKraan | 01/29/09
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Try Robin Harris's article  ShadeTree | 01/27/09
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Any loss is dangerous for them.  storm14k | 01/27/09
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That is certainly true of you ....  ShadeTree | 01/29/09
Oh look..  TedKraan | 01/29/09
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And your my biggest fan!  Loverock Davidson | 01/27/09
Loverock learn to spell  kyn_67@... | 01/27/09
Wouldn't it have been easier  Loverock Davidson | 01/28/09
Lover(cough)ock, learn to think.  Alan Smithie | 01/28/09
I did a long time ago, now it's your turn (NT)  Loverock Davidson | 01/28/09
openSUSE 11.1 Out Now  jabailo1 | 01/27/09
but  Azathothh | 01/29/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  super_J | 01/27/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  TtfnJohn | 01/27/09
It may actually be the reverse.  TripleII | 01/27/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  Zlatko.Lakisic | 01/27/09
ZDNet bloggers need to refrain from cursing in their posts  usamab | 01/27/09
Yes, Linux is dead now  Lerianis | 01/27/09
What AV and firewall are you going to use?  joe.smetona@... | 01/27/09
Give the crack pipe some rest  InAction Man | 01/27/09
Paying more for the same?  storm14k | 01/28/09
Linux also has a built-in antivirus  Ole Man | 01/28/09
You forgot...  kozmcrae | 01/28/09
LOL!  Sleeper Service | 01/29/09
I'm sorry dear Sleeper.  kozmcrae | 01/29/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  bricar2 | 01/27/09
"I don?t just say this as a fanboy"  Ole Man | 01/27/09
Freetard...nt  transposeIT | 01/27/09
Paytard!  kozmcrae | 01/29/09
I thought Linux would have got more traction  tech_walker | 01/27/09
vista had positive reviews before it got out as well  hamobu | 01/27/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  gbj@... | 01/27/09
Ummmm...  Dave32265 | 01/28/09
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RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  notsofast | 01/27/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  rMatey | 01/27/09
When was it Ballmer called Linux a "cancer"?  Ole Man | 01/27/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  codeguy007 | 01/27/09
Well said Chris !  Alan Smithie | 01/28/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  yagijd | 01/28/09
Funniest quote of the day!  ShadeTree | 01/28/09
Circulation must be down  Sodbuster41 | 01/28/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  pppaulll | 01/28/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  petermat@... | 01/28/09
Here's an exciting thought...  hiraghm@... | 01/28/09
Interesting thought...  LazLong | 01/28/09
Isn't Maya already a Linux app for years?  bswiss | 01/29/09
You are correct .....  LazLong | 01/30/09
He's dead Jim!  Narg | 01/28/09
That's what we like to hear.  kozmcrae | 01/28/09
You may not see it much in the US, yet, but you do in Europe  GoPower | 01/28/09
Don't let them pull your leg  Ole Man | 01/28/09
Truth in that  TedKraan | 01/29/09
Linux cant even take on the Mac  bklooste | 01/28/09
DOS killed UNIX not LINUX  bklooste | 01/28/09
Linux killed Linux  Aussie_Troll | 01/29/09
Been too busy?  alf@... | 01/29/09
Not much except  Aussie_Troll | 01/29/09
Linux was Dead  jpr75_z | 01/29/09
you used Linux last when?  Clewin | 01/29/09
We need to get this information up to Redmond ASAP.  kozmcrae | 01/29/09
Microsoft can dream if they want....  GOTBO | 01/29/09
See...  Dave32265 | 01/29/09
Does everyone want to drive the same car?  kurio99 | 01/29/09
He was refering to netbooks chris not desktops  mrjoctave@... | 01/29/09
What's this dead Linux doing on my HD???  padapa | 01/29/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  RandallR | 01/30/09
Linux is weak only if you've never used it  NegativeElectrons | 02/04/09
things are changing  The Management consultant | 02/20/09
RE: Linux dead at hands of Windows 7? Horse puckey!  Unixverse | 07/01/09

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