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July 3rd, 2009

"Windows 7 is the same as Ubuntu"

Posted by Christopher Dawson @ 8:11 am

Categories: Education Technology

Tags: Ubuntu, Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Christopher Dawson

Obviously, this isn’t true. Their underlying architectures are quite a bit different, Gnome looks different than the 7 UI, etc., but to an average 17-year-old, there just wasn’t any meaningful difference between the two operating systems.

The other day, I posted a blog titled “Windows 7: Good enough to pay for?” I described how I’d installed the Windows 7 Release Candidate on my son’s computer for his take on the OS after living with Ubuntu 9.04 (and 8.10 before that) for a few months. It’s summer break, so he basically spends every waking moment when he’s not actually interacting face-to-face with friends on the computer. No better time to have a kid do some serious testing, right?

I asked him last night about his initial impressions of Windows 7 and, in typical teenage fashion, as he was bouncing between Meebo windows and browser tabs, he said it was “nice.” I managed to extract from him that his favorite feature was that he was able to use his Zune with it, something that had never worked terribly well with Ubuntu. Otherwise, he said, “Windows 7 is the same as Ubuntu; there just really isn’t anything different about them.”

Of course there isn’t. He lives in a web browser. The underlying OS is irrelevant. He has no need for Office 2007 and I expect his next portable music player will be platform independent.

For some, Windows 7 may, indeed, be good enough to pay for, especially if they are power-users of Windows-only software. For my oldest son, if he gravitates to any machine, it’s to my Mac because it’s so easy for him to create and share video content. For the average student, though, the old Windows vs. Mac vs. Linux debate may finally be dead. For someone who “hated Linux” a year ago to now happily switch between Windows 7 and Ubuntu in a completely transparent way certainly signals an end to that age-old flame war.


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Twisting the facts.  CobraA1 | 07/05/09
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iPods...  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/06/09
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Ubuntu is great, but I still need Windows  fletchoid | 07/07/09
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Ubuntu is a disgrace to the linux name.  bendib | 07/03/09
wow a redhat fanboy  stevey_d | 07/04/09
RE:Ubuntu is a disgrace to the linux name.  richdave | 07/04/09
And thats one reason I'm driven away from Fedora...  storm14k | 07/06/09
Not quite true.  PaddyO | 07/06/09
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re: Wow! ...  n0neXn0ne | 07/06/09
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os or applications  johnhopfensperger@... | 07/06/09
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free equivalents  jlewisfl | 07/06/09
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Strange thing, though, isn't it?  Ole Man | 07/07/09
thank you  teacher006 | 07/08/09
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Narrow minded and stiff  forestwalkerjoe | 07/09/09
Donnie....funny you should mention "flame war"  xuniL_z | 07/06/09
I think everyone is missing the point...  maverick50 | 07/06/09
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How work computers go, I go  Psyclone | 07/06/09
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equal or better  mr.zachcoffman@... | 07/07/09
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OK MAY I STAND CORRECTED....  maverick50 | 07/07/09
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I think  Viva la crank dodo | 07/03/09
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Ubuntu: Brought to you by Microsoft  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 07/03/09
New way of microsoft trying to kill canonical, or a Dell publicity stunt?  InAction Man | 07/03/09
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They only care about the application compatibility and the familiarity.  DonnieBoy | 07/03/09
Really? They both do the same thing?  canyouhearmenow2 | 07/03/09
Re: Really? They both do the same thing?  toml_12953 | 07/06/09
Really? They both do the same thing?  compudog | 07/06/09
Um...  PaddyO | 07/06/09
Yes yes yes!  kingttx | 07/07/09
Is there a point to your inane rambling?  canyouhearmenow2 | 07/07/09
The point, which  PaddyO | 07/07/09
Then, why again, did someone develop SAMBA?  MGP2 | 07/07/09
Yes and no.  CobraA1 | 07/03/09
Kinda agree  CobraA1 | 07/03/09
outside the browser...  jdieter@... | 07/06/09
The whole point was . . .  JLHenry | 07/03/09
What is the average user?  aalhc5@... | 07/03/09
This just isn't true  trance2tec | 07/03/09
So name something that they will do...  storm14k | 07/06/09
Actually, I haven't had a problem with either  alaniane@... | 07/06/09
One more time:  PaddyO | 07/06/09
"Windows print support is left in the hands of the printer manufactures"  Ole Man | 07/07/09
Good enough, the market force/share in motion  Boot_Agnostic | 07/03/09
The underlying OS ***is*** relevant.  HypnoToad72 | 07/03/09
Well thanks for ruining my plans for the weekend  Viva la crank dodo | 07/03/09
sandwiches?  stevey_d | 07/03/09
Still, Windows users are used to the problems, and the most important thing  DonnieBoy | 07/03/09
Until software catches up with hardware ...  mwagner@... | 07/03/09
Now that's rich.  TripleII | 07/03/09
That's a good point  NonZealot | 07/03/09
I actually do it on purpose sometimes.  TripleII | 07/03/09
How?  CobraA1 | 07/03/09
Linux more customizable  NonZealot | 07/03/09
It's pretty easy.  TripleII | 07/03/09
OH, I see!  CobraA1 | 07/03/09
It is easy with Icewm  pfyearwood | 07/04/09
*yawn* configure this, install that, etc  CobraA1 | 07/04/09
LMAO, I'll say it one more time.  TripleII | 07/04/09
You're probably too small an OEM to make a big difference.  CobraA1 | 07/06/09
@Cobra...Dell and HP aren't to small...  storm14k | 07/06/09
Never said they were.  CobraA1 | 07/06/09
And, When You're through, You still can't Run Windows Programs (NT)  windozefreak | 07/06/09
so change it  jdieter@... | 07/06/09
What I find interesting  PaddyO | 07/06/09
I hate to break the news to you but ...  mwagner@... | 07/06/09
How much did Vista cost?  pwatson | 07/06/09
Late breaking news...  PaddyO | 07/06/09
Another clueless post by mwagner ...  n0neXn0ne | 07/03/09
Why's that?  UAC nanny screen | 07/06/09
We should send you a copy of DOS happy.  CobraA1 | 07/03/09
re: We should send you a copy of DOS  n0neXn0ne | 07/06/09
I'll see your bet, Tex!  PaddyO | 07/06/09
no fat bit hogs  jdieter@... | 07/06/09
How much of the Linux kernel do you understand?  alaniane@... | 07/06/09
did you point him  s_souche | 07/03/09
We should add web site compatibility to the list too. Microsoft is working  DonnieBoy | 07/03/09
Fortunately for them chaos is very easy to spread  InAction Man | 07/03/09
Waaah....I'm always the victim  canyouhearmenow2 | 07/06/09
Not!  mswift@... | 07/06/09
I'm still waiting on one item.  TripleII | 07/03/09
Well, the ATI driver  PaddyO | 07/06/09
The "same" as Ubuntu? Depends upon ...  mwagner@... | 07/03/09
Not that they'd actually do it . . .  JLHenry | 07/03/09
But they'd also kill themselves  Rob Oakes | 07/04/09
I don't know about that  stevey_d | 07/05/09
Same as in Windows 7, Vista, Xp, etc, etc. (n/t)  windozefreak | 07/06/09
Umm.. No they would just kill the iPod...  condelirios | 07/06/09
It would be interesting to see ...  mwagner@... | 07/06/09
iPod is No Killer App  ufbobby@... | 07/06/09
We all know the FOSS mantra  Aussie_Troll | 07/03/09
While you guys argue, the world moves on  eMJayy | 07/04/09
Not a disconnect  Rob Oakes | 07/04/09
RE:  shellcodes_coder | 07/04/09
RE:  Ben1265 | 07/04/09
re:RE  n0neXn0ne | 07/04/09
You're wrong on so many counts...  wolf_z | 07/06/09
How is that different from Windows?  alaniane@... | 07/06/09
Ubuntu IS a disgrace  magice | 07/04/09
Yet Ubuntu...  wolf_z | 07/06/09
You don't see this mess out of the Ubuntu community...  storm14k | 07/06/09
Well said  NStalnecker | 07/06/09
I like crab  zelrikriando | 07/06/09
Fedora/Debian ????  jdieter@... | 07/06/09
Three Clients and Counting  technology@... | 07/06/09
Ubuntu IS Disgrace?  technology@... | 07/06/09
Ubuntu is a disgrace? Interesting.  PaddyO | 07/06/09
RE:"Windows 7 is the same as Ubuntu"  richdave | 07/05/09
Come the day  whisperycat | 07/06/09
Wrong...  DevStar | 07/06/09
Smells like bullsh*t  whisperycat | 07/06/09
Not that hard...  DevStar | 07/06/09
Well bring it on...  UAC nanny screen | 07/06/09
re: Well bring it on...  n0neXn0ne | 07/06/09
I know that...  UAC nanny screen | 07/06/09
how open socket??  jdieter@... | 07/06/09
Hehehe...  DevStar | 07/06/09
This below, is generally a rationalization...  UAC nanny screen | 07/06/09
You terd, the phrase is "Fool Proof" not "Full Proof" [nt]  MarketingTutor | 07/06/09
I'm Sorry If I Got On Your Nerves...  windozefreak | 07/06/09
No comparison between Windows 7 and Ubuntu.  Solid Jedi Knight | 07/06/09
No no and no  zelrikriando | 07/06/09
You gotta be kidding  royalstream | 07/08/09
You seem like you are trolling  colinnwn | 07/06/09
blame apple...  royalstream | 07/08/09
Interesting.  PaddyO | 07/07/09
Oh, and about security.  PaddyO | 07/07/09
Who needs Itunes, anyway?  Ole Man | 07/07/09
and in your honest opinion  royalstream | 07/08/09
Just an answer  Ole Man | 07/19/09
I'm impressed  royalstream | 07/08/09
I'm impressed, too!  Ole Man | 07/19/09
The one major flaw to your arguement ....  ShadeTree | 07/06/09
Then there is no flaw...  storm14k | 07/06/09
You notice that ...  n0neXn0ne | 07/06/09
That is a flaw then...  DevStar | 07/06/09
Well..  zelrikriando | 07/06/09
Well...  UAC nanny screen | 07/06/09
Linux Mint Install  zelrikriando | 07/06/09
This has been the case for some time.  ye | 07/06/09
More bulls..  EmperorDarius | 07/06/09
Translation  frgough | 07/06/09
RE:  super_J | 07/06/09
RE: ubuntu and software  sparkle farkle | 07/06/09
Works with Zune  rag@... | 07/06/09
A kid with a brain and a sense of identity!  Heatlesssun1 | 07/06/09
He must have won it.  MyMac | 07/06/09
Plenty of times  NStalnecker | 07/06/09
I would! happy  NStalnecker | 07/06/09
RE: The quote that says it all.  mlindl | 07/06/09
Answers...  condelirios | 07/06/09
Active Directory, and Exchange Server, are nightmares ...  super_J | 07/06/09
I know two small businesses running AD and Exchange.  ye | 07/06/09
Your take is not the prevailing opinion  Heatlesssun1 | 07/06/09
Lack of training  super_J | 07/06/09
AD is great...  DevStar | 07/06/09
re: AD is great...  n0neXn0ne | 07/06/09
@n0neXn0ne: Yes, it is:  ye | 07/06/09
@ye, your link takes me to M$'s crapware site  n0neXn0ne | 07/06/09
Hey n0neXn0ne, lie much?  canyouhearmenow2 | 07/06/09
Anything can be a nightmare if you don't know what you're doing.  ye | 07/06/09
re: Anything can be a nightmare if you don't know what you're doing.  n0neXn0ne | 07/06/09
@n0neXn0ne: Please don't mis-quote me.  ye | 07/06/09
@ ye, stop wishing someone would quote you  n0neXn0ne | 07/06/09
@n0neXn0ne: Just because you didn't put quotation marks around it...  ye | 07/06/09
Yes it does, ye  UAC nanny screen | 07/06/09
Does that baloney come on rye?  canyouhearmenow2 | 07/06/09
Domain BAD! AD BAD!  jdieter@... | 07/06/09
I am still laughin...  condelirios | 07/06/09
I'll answer the questions!  Heatlesssun1 | 07/06/09
Mac...  zelrikriando | 07/06/09
answers for the out of touch  willr6662 | 07/08/09
Answers to your valid questions  aharper@... | 07/12/09
RE: Linux is light years behind in terms of compatibility  CyberGuerilla | 07/06/09
Compatibility?  jdieter@... | 07/06/09
The first thing the consumer will ask is ...  mwagner@... | 07/06/09
Do you ever ...  n0neXn0ne | 07/06/09
...the wrong question. Thanks for the red herring.  over2sd | 07/07/09
Good reason not to seek the advice of a 17-year old  SteveMak | 07/06/09
and what reason is that ?  colinnwn | 07/06/09
Answer to: And what reason is that?  SteveMak | 07/07/09
Meaningless Comparison  bhartman36 | 07/06/09
RE:  Chameleon81 | 07/06/09
openoffice  jdieter@... | 07/06/09
You Gotta Be Kidding...  jojoleb@... | 07/06/09
jojoleb, you gotta be kidding...  i8thecat | 07/06/09
Yes and no...  jojoleb@... | 07/08/09
RE: Linux is a Disgrace to the Ubuntu Name.  psion@... | 07/06/09
RE: Web-based browsers and OS  david@... | 07/06/09
David - you are VERY smart  jdieter@... | 07/06/09
Good observations!  john_gillespie@... | 07/06/09
RE: Free  david@... | 07/06/09
in your dreams  FADS_z | 07/06/09
RE: Win 7 & Ubuntu  Rdewey | 07/06/09
LINUX VERSUS WINDOWS  step69 | 07/06/09
RE:  bryan.loeper@... | 07/06/09
I think you missed the point  fernande-zdnet | 07/06/09
Science!  jdieter@... | 07/06/09
Simplistic view, but very real  fernande-zdnet | 07/06/09
RE: GAMING  step69 | 07/06/09
RE: WOW  rcowan@... | 07/06/09
It really depends on end-user needs and technical capablity  Garrius | 07/06/09
RE:  Chameleon81 | 07/06/09
look up the word "browser"  jdieter@... | 07/06/09
RE: pretty much  SortedPunchCards | 07/06/09
try ubuntu studio  jdieter@... | 07/06/09
Addiction  preacherx | 07/06/09
RE: @: So - how did we start talking about consoles?  windozefreak | 07/06/09
Put an end to the age old flame war, huh?  technology@... | 07/06/09
Where are the apps?  MadWhiteHatter | 07/06/09
You're right... in both directions..  john.gruber@... | 07/06/09
OS irrelevance favors...  over2sd | 07/07/09
It's about familiarity  williamacole@... | 07/06/09
RE: When I was his son's age...  john.gruber@... | 07/06/09
Linux vs Windows  j-mccurdy@... | 07/06/09
Re:Real Contender  step69 | 07/06/09
Why should the average Joe Sixpack even care?  A Gray | 07/06/09
RE:Auto restart of updated services  windozefreak | 07/06/09
RE: Win 7 and Ubuntu  Billy.Jones@... | 07/06/09
RE: Flame wars and the Fundamentalism  teopen@... | 07/06/09
RE: MS 7 Zune and Ubuntu.  Billy.Jones@... | 07/06/09
RE: MS 7 Zune and Ubuntu.  j-mccurdy@... | 07/06/09
Reality Check  hawkeyefile | 07/06/09
Wow, a little rage there.  bfrzr082@... | 07/06/09
I agree  Timewellwasted | 07/06/09
OUT OF CONTEXT CHECK  Timewellwasted | 07/06/09
RE: Game Consoles will completely take over  ktodack | 07/06/09
RE: GAMING  step69 | 07/06/09
pc gamer  j-mccurdy@... | 07/06/09
RE:  mohawke | 07/06/09
The Real Price  preacherx | 07/06/09
RE The Real Price  j-mccurdy@... | 07/11/09
Flame On!!!!  Narg | 07/06/09
RE: The same???  Ric30901 | 07/06/09
RE: WTF  ne12u13 | 07/06/09
Real world  onewire | 07/06/09
Gaming  chaz15 | 07/06/09
PCs for work, PC's for games  chromeronin | 07/06/09
RE: Means Windows Is catching up with LINUX  lynne1462@... | 07/06/09
Watch out for Win 7 hype  CPPDEV | 07/06/09
Linux-based apps more reliable than their Windows counterparts.  CPPDEV | 07/06/09
This is BS...  Heatlesssun1 | 07/06/09
It's happened to me!  CPPDEV | 07/06/09
re It's happened to me!  j-mccurdy@... | 07/11/09
Ooops, I forgot...here's a little reminder...  CPPDEV | 07/06/09
Doesn't affect Windows 7 (or Vista for that matter)!  Heatlesssun1 | 07/06/09
I can post Vista bugs, too!  CPPDEV | 07/06/09
RE: avoiding Windows 8  jasahasch@... | 07/06/09
RE: Linux is cheaper and has been stable  allanzieser | 07/06/09
Yes, and Linux apps run better, too.  CPPDEV | 07/06/09
WELL, now WHAT?  jparr | 07/06/09
RE: Windows 7 vs Ubuntu  jurgen.manycolored@... | 07/06/09
Windows has more free apps than Linux probably...  Heatlesssun1 | 07/06/09
Not Equal, Chris  cwallen19803@... | 07/06/09
Your son has a Zune?  zdsolsoldmeout@... | 07/06/09
More like class studd!  Heatlesssun1 | 07/06/09
Works for what most users need  gdgtgrl | 07/06/09
Right, and its amazing how Ubuntu runs Windows software too!  Crestview | 07/06/09
Gnome bites...  MarketingTutor | 07/06/09
There just might be a reason  Ole Man | 07/07/09
Rather, let us speak about Kubuntu  MarketingTutor | 07/06/09
OOOps! third time.... three strikes and you're out  Ole Man | 07/07/09
RE: NOT SOFTBALL OR BASEBALL  Timewellwasted | 07/06/09
RE:  exarkun631@... | 07/06/09
Major App Support is the Difference -- And what a difference it is!  gbambo | 07/06/09
Linux is useless as a Pro-Audio platform  MarketingTutor | 07/06/09
Drivers are not forthcoming ...  PaddyO | 07/06/09
The difference, indeed...  PaddyO | 07/06/09
(edited) Oops, missplaced post  Ole Man | 07/07/09
RE: maurodantas  maurodantas@... | 07/06/09
Have you ever run Windows???  compudog | 07/06/09
Differences - Even for a Three-Year-Old  jvin248 | 07/06/09
RE: Wotif Windows WAS free?  tgilbert@... | 07/06/09
RE: The Future  ID@... | 07/06/09
RE: 17yr olds  davisnewman | 07/06/09
my 2 cents  df@... | 07/06/09
Another little earner  tonymcs@... | 07/06/09
Flame Wars  ksarkies@... | 07/06/09
Windows 7 - First Look  PCWizKidsTechTalk | 07/06/09
Windows 7 - First Look  PaddyO | 07/06/09
Have any of Redmond Fanboyz ...  PaddyO | 07/06/09
Whatever...  zedubal | 07/06/09
RE: identica ?  jdardon | 07/06/09
RE: The Lowest Cost is the Long Term Winner  usr001 | 07/06/09
RE: the old debate  mattypoole | 07/06/09
RE: Subject in Email  vahnx | 07/06/09
Ubuntu crashes more than Windows?  PaddyO | 07/06/09
If the intent Chris was to kick of ANOTHER flame war...  kaninelupus | 07/06/09
To lazy to fix what?  PaddyO | 07/06/09
I'll see your bet  PaddyO | 07/06/09
Don't mean a thing  ragnar.moller@... | 07/06/09
RE: Win 7 like Ubuntu? Nope.  GrannyBeth | 07/06/09
what does that even mean?  mr.zachcoffman@... | 07/07/09
Here's what it means ...  GrannyBeth | 07/07/09
Ok granny - then you may want to dial-back on the meds  willr6662 | 07/08/09
Linux is A LOT BETTER, but..  Gradius2 | 07/07/09
RE:  stewymelb | 07/07/09
Wishes Are NOT horses, so Linux will NEVER be King!  myother | 07/07/09
Linux is king to me and that is all that matters  westea49 | 07/07/09
Ride that hoss, man!  Ole Man | 07/07/09
RE:  hwaynew | 07/07/09
RE: Yakitiyak  CexCells | 07/07/09
RE:  amacdougall@... | 07/07/09
RE: iPod & MP3 player support  pberardis | 07/07/09
RE: I understand and agree  The_Quietman | 07/07/09
RE:  vilppuu@... | 07/07/09
RE: updates or adding programs causing system problems  lwvirden | 07/07/09
 joepranay | 07/07/09
Christopher Dawson is a fine addition to the ZDnet staff  Duke E. Love | 07/07/09
Well...  zkiwi | 07/07/09
The future: Don't know, don't care  royalstream | 07/08/09
RE:  hoanglong1712@... | 07/08/09
RE: UBUNTU  RTTECH82 | 07/08/09
pointless...  leslie.wand@... | 07/08/09
RE:  rkarolak | 07/08/09
RE: 17 year olds and Linux  dcolbert@... | 07/08/09
Poor, biased article  Planck | 07/08/09
RE:  kf7cib | 07/08/09
MS is a monopoly - but not as sucky as Apple  willr6662 | 07/08/09
RE: so my comments here  daniel@... | 07/09/09
RE: You have to be kidding!  paul.graville@... | 07/09/09
RE: Missed an important point  caligula@... | 07/09/09
RE:  ColdFusionRules | 07/11/09
RE: Go surf with your Internet Explorer...  selasforos | 07/11/09
W7 & Ubuntu same - LOL that's funny - nt  USTechHead | 07/12/09
Agreed in principle, but for different reasons.  aharper@... | 07/12/09
Untested software  aharper@... | 07/12/09
RE:  willemverwey | 07/12/09
Not just OSS. (Maya)  over2sd | 07/15/09
There are differences  rbethell | 07/27/09
MSN Messenger  tmsbrdrs | 08/04/09
RE: My teens are the same...  adams484@... | 10/27/09
Linux, Ubuntu, Mac=Win anything?  Bill1William | 10/28/09
Windows 7  Vokar | 10/28/09
In every way imaginable.  ericesque | 10/28/09
In every way?  bigpook | 10/28/09
Most people are missing the point  metalktulu | 10/30/09

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