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March 28th, 2007

Can Intel-based Macs really save your university money?

Posted by Marc Wagner @ 8:26 am

Categories: Apple, Education Technology, Hardware, Higher Ed

Tags: Apple Macintosh, Workstation, Intel Corp., Marc Wagner

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Wilkes University in Wilkes-Barre, PA, expects to save $150,000 over the next three years by switching from generic Intel-based PC platforms to the Intel-based Apple Macintosh.  According to eSchool News, Wilkes University is replacing their entire compliment of Intel student workstations with Macintosh computers running Boot Camp (Apples dual-boot technology), Mac OS X, and unspecified "virtualization" software. 

Well all this is fine and dandy but one of their arguments is that the Macintosh is less susceptible virus attack.  Don't they realize that a Macintosh running Windows is no less susceptible to virus attack than any other Intel-based PC running Windows?  (I won't bother to address this reality.  The reasons for this are simple and, in a properly secured environment, it is moot anyway.)

The university acknowledges that more software is available for Windows and points out that this move will allow their users to continue to run all their Windows applications.   In the end, their rationale is that by using all Macintosh hardware, they will need 250 fewer workstations than they would need otherwise. 

If we take the simplest approach then, the $150,000 savings divided by 250 fewer workstations comes to $600 per workstation.  Gee, that just happens to be the retail cost of a Mac mini (sans keyboard, mouse, and monitor).  Add a genuine Apple monitor, keyboard, and mouse to a Mac mini and it is more expensive than a comparably-equipped iMac.  Go figure. 

This $1.4 million project will provide the university with 1450 workstations over three years (certainly a sensible life-cycle), or just over $965 per workstation.  Sounds about right — assuming that you really need that expensive a machine to meet your typical student's computing needs over a three-year life-cycle. 

I won't quibble with the advantages to students of not having to go to a specific location to use a particular application.  In this respect, being able to boot up the environment that you want in order to run the applications that you want in any student lab on campus is a considerable advantage.

Still I would argue that for under $700 per non-Macintosh workstation, Wilkes University could provide their students with the same functionality on those 1450 workstations and have plenty of money left over for an additional 250 Macintoshes for those that really need them. 

If this simple 'back of the envelope' analysis demonstrates an upfront savings by sticking with Macintosh alternatives (while providing students with more total workstations), it would suggest that while their decision to switch to 100% Macintosh hardware might not be a bad one, it is not a cost-saving one. 

C. Marc Wagner

C. Marc Wagner is a Services Development Specialist at Indiana University. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Perception is the key for us
I work for a company that has about a 80/20 split of Win vs Mac clients. Every year we go through the same study of cost for switching to full Mac or full Win. Every year (even with different people... (Read the rest)
Posted by: SMFX Posted on: 12/21/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
yes. Windows license costs add up  ITGuy04 | 03/28/07
Not necessarily ...  mwagner@... | 03/28/07
Oh, Please  ajole | 03/28/07
What if your specs are...  kboggs@... | 03/28/07
Only if half your users are Mac users ...  mwagner@... | 03/28/07
That's the only way I can see to justify the Mac purchase  ajole | 03/29/07
Tax dollars?  dolph0291 | 03/29/07
Good point, I agree, but for the sake of argument...  ajole | 03/29/07
Yes, oh please....  MacCanuck | 03/29/07
OK, so I read the crap, and its just that...CRAP!  ajole | 03/29/07
Just because you don't like the "facts"  MacCanuck | 04/01/07
If what you say ...  mwagner@... | 04/01/07
Too much MS lock-in  MacCanuck | 04/02/07
This is a school, not a business  toadlife | 03/28/07
And might I add...  toadlife | 03/28/07
Not True  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/28/07
Clarification  toadlife | 03/28/07
WRONG ...  mwagner@... | 03/28/07
$150,000 is a conservative figure.  UrbanBard | 03/28/07
Some good points but ...  mwagner@... | 03/28/07
I agree  eldernorm | 03/28/07
So you think they will REDUCE the tech staff?  ajole | 03/28/07
20 Minutes to change out RAM?  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 03/29/07
Lets see  ajole | 03/29/07
Why does anyone who dislikes Mac have to love MS?  ajole | 03/29/07
Bull.  ajole | 03/28/07
Bull back at ya!  kboggs@... | 03/28/07
In seven years ...  mwagner@... | 03/28/07
so?  mutatio | 03/29/07
And they still run just fine,  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 03/29/07
But I can run it on a 6 year old Dell...  ajole | 03/29/07
Sure. You can run XP ...  mwagner@... | 04/02/07
Yep, bull.  ajole | 03/29/07
Not a Good Argument  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/28/07
Also  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/28/07
This is the problem.  ajole | 03/28/07
So? All OEMs give universities special ...  mwagner@... | 03/28/07
Monitors, Keyboards & mice....  middle of nowhere | 03/28/07
Apple wold not be very happy ...  mwagner@... | 03/28/07
Brilliant analysis  hartsch | 03/28/07
I don't work for Microsoft ...  mwagner@... | 03/28/07
publish the numbers  Jim Oase | 03/30/07
The point you missed...  ebernet | 03/28/07
No, I didn't miss the point.  mwagner@... | 03/28/07
"Extra" people = "Extra Space" needed.  pyrdek | 03/28/07
Resale is a joke.  ajole | 03/28/07
And they get crap...  kboggs@... | 03/28/07
So Mac is better quality? Bull again.  ajole | 03/29/07
And yet...  rx7racer | 03/29/07
which company is that?  Jim Oase | 03/30/07
Wrong  dolph0291 | 03/30/07
What about space?  kboggs@... | 03/28/07
The savings claimed was 250 ...  mwagner@... | 03/28/07
Cost / Lifetime  dorianzdnet | 03/28/07
This is the sort of post that gets the anti Mac blood going  ajole | 03/29/07
Wagner = Ou  MacCanuck | 03/29/07
I don't know who should be offended ...  mwagner@... | 03/29/07
MWAGNER MUST HAVE BEEN HEAD OF AN IT DEPT IN ANOTHER LIFE  johnpall@... | 03/29/07
YES! And those applications are why ...  mwagner@... | 03/29/07
This is a university  dolph0291 | 03/30/07
None of those apps serve any purpose in an Ed Lab  ajole | 03/29/07
Why the idea of anti_mac bias?  MacCanuck | 03/29/07
My premise was not ANTI-MAC ...  mwagner@... | 03/29/07
For every singel "fact" you offer, there are more that show the oppposite  ajole | 03/29/07
Wish I could type the words they way they are spelled in my head...  ajole | 03/29/07
So far you are losing the argument...  MacCanuck | 04/01/07
For every article you can quote ...  mwagner@... | 04/02/07
In reference to other points...  MacCanuck | 03/29/07
MS only technologies? Commodity desktop market?  ajole | 03/29/07
MS lock in  MacCanuck | 04/01/07
You said ...  mwagner@... | 03/30/07
Reason for the site I pointed to  MacCanuck | 04/01/07
To many is not MOST ...  mwagner@... | 04/02/07
They raen't questioning the decision, just the reasoning.  ajole | 03/29/07
When the reasoning is based  MacCanuck | 04/01/07
I don't question whether Wilkes University ...  mwagner@... | 04/02/07
It would seem as someone has already beat Microsoft .  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 03/29/07
Power?  mutatio | 03/29/07
Quit doing that!!!  MacCanuck | 03/29/07
Power management should be a factor ...  mwagner@... | 03/29/07
I can only wish for a Mac at work  ralphrides | 03/29/07
So why don't you get a Mac at work?  ajole | 03/29/07
Macs in Government  CowLauncher | 03/31/07
Government tends to go with the ...  mwagner@... | 04/02/07
VALUE PROPOSITION FOR INTEL BASED MACS  joelkruissink@... | 03/29/07
Nope, it doesn't.  ajole | 03/29/07
Academia favors ALL platforms ...  mwagner@... | 03/30/07
Another MS Zealot  dolph0291 | 03/29/07
Actually, he's showing you reality, it's what teachers do.  ajole | 03/29/07
No, I don't see it.  dolph0291 | 03/30/07
On our campus ...  mwagner@... | 03/30/07
Cheap PC Boxes  CTS_z | 03/29/07
What are you going to buy to replace it?  ajole | 03/29/07
What?  mwagner@... | 03/30/07
Right  CTS_z | 03/30/07
In a large-scale mixed environment ...  mwagner@... | 03/30/07
LOL  dolph0291 | 03/30/07
I just bought a $330 Compaq ...  mwagner@... | 03/30/07
Interesting...  dolph0291 | 03/30/07
So what if it's a 3.3GHz Celeron D ...  mwagner@... | 04/01/07
Cheap vs Value  CowLauncher | 03/31/07
When funds are limited, "just good enough"...  mwagner@... | 04/01/07
Are you really a teacher?  Jim Oase | 03/30/07
I am not faculty. I work in University IT ...  mwagner@... | 03/30/07
The Right Tools...  brichpmr@... | 03/31/07
Correct on all counts ...  mwagner@... | 04/01/07
There's Got To Be....  brichpmr@... | 04/02/07
Our Macintosh team is fluent in Macintosh ...  mwagner@... | 04/02/07
Interesting Response...  brichpmr@... | 04/02/07
Perception is the key for us  SMFX | 12/21/07

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